Issue 554: Examples for E4 Period

Posted by Martin on 29/9/2021

Dear All,

Here my attempts to create examples for E4 Period that occur on spatially disjoint areas, but with temporal continuity. Two are from Dariah Hook:

* The Capital of Russia (E4) [the capital of Russia is an administrative unit that moved in historical times from Moscow to St Petersburg and again back to Moscow. This examplifies and administrative unit changing place over time without temporal discontinuity]

*  The settling activity of the community of Hersinki (or Helsingfors) (E7) [the old settlement of Helsinki (or Helsingfors) was located in the area of the modern airport. The community moved later to settle on the coast. This exemplies a continued activity changing place over time without temporal discontinuity]

* Bronze Period (E4) [Bronze Period spread out into disjoint areas including islands such as the British Islands without temporal discontinuity]

* The nation of Japan (E4) [In 2021, the Japanese nation comprises in 6852 islands extending along the Pacific coast of Asia]

We still need some citations. Please propose literature.

Posted by Martin on 8/10/2021

Dear All,

Please let me add some clarifications.
All valid aspects that you mention!!

.. but with the Russian example I wanted to describe an administrative unit, not to explain the term "capital of Russia", nor who maintains it. I follow Oeyvind's arguments about the complexity of involved actors. So, let's not make it too complicated. If a better term than "capital" needs to be or can be found, the better.

The point with the Helsinki example is that settlement and administrative unit are completely different in substance.

When the Russian capital moved, the settling activity did not abandon Moscow and later St. Petersburg. The cities did not change names. Only the administrators/governmental bodies will have moved, and associated businesses and nobles. When the Helsinki settlers moved, they may not have formed an administrative unit, or may be the administrative unit was larger, or administrative units stayed in place, or moved with the settlers, but the settlement activity abandoned the old place and populated the new area, as I understand, carrying with it its local name.  May be someone can add the details?

Therefore, I try to show that settling and administrative units should be  distinguished, regardless whether in former times administrative units may have imposed limits on settling activities.

Kiruna is nice and exactly up to the point, but ongoing, if I understand correctly?

Wrt to Japan, I tried to find the official title of the current country as political unit. Can anybody help, our Japanese colleagues?   "Country" may be better?

In the 51st CIDOC CRM & 44th FRBRoo SIG meeting, the SIG reviewed the examples for E4 Period (HW by MD). 
The SIG avoided reaching a decision in this meeting. The examples need to be reworked before they can be put to an evote / discussed anew in the next meeting. 

Points raised: 
(1)    the example with Helsinki in particular is problematic. Instead of Helsinki: the case of Oslo makes a better example or villages that are lost to floods and moved elsewhere upon building a dam 
(2)    aside calling “The Capital of Russia” the “administrative Capital of Russia”, there needs to be some marker flagging its temporal aspect 
(3)    come up with more examples, also review and reformulate the existing ones
HW: unassigned