Issue 664: redefine the scope note and FOL of P191 had duration

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In the 57th CIDOC CRM & 50th FRBR/LRMoo SIG Meeting, upon discussing issue 635, the SIG resolved to start an issue where to redefine the scope-note and FOL of P191, taking into consideration the following: 

The idea that a dimension can pertain to multiple timespans, only holds if these timespans are identified by temporal primitives. This can be conveyed in CRM through the property quantification (1,1:0,n), taken together with an FOL statement relaying that the condition that n only pertains to declarative timespans. The FOL should be rendered in prose in the scope note. 

HW: MD & WS to work on the redefinition
HW: AK to contribute with examples


Marseille, October 2023


In the 58th CIDOC CRM & 51st FRBR/LRMoo SIG Meeting, upon discussing issue 665, the SIG resolved to set the property quantifier for P191 had duration to “one to one, necessary (1,1:0,1)”. 

The issue is thereby resolved, as the quantification originally proposed in the issue thread, does not correspond to the decision that the SIG reached. 

The addition of the example from SeaLiT for P191 is considered an editorial issue. 

  • The time-span of the voyage of the ship Andriana, from 9/3/1908 to 19/4/1908, (E52) had duration 1 month and 10 days (E54). 

Paris, March 2024