Issue 486: Labels of O19, O21

ID: 
486
Starting Date: 
2020-03-06
Working Group: 
3
Status: 
Done
Closing Date: 
2020-10-23
Background: 

Posted by Robert Sanderson on 6/3/2020

Dear all,

At a recent Linked Art meeting we discussed how to model “find events”, and S19 and O19 were agreed upon as the correct modeling constructs.  We also discussed why S19 is an “encounter” rather than a “find” or “discovery”, as is very well described in the scope notes for the class.

However, the properties of S19 would benefit from some attention towards consistency.  If S19 is encountering, then it seems counterproductive to have O19 as being “has found object” and O21 “has found at”, undoing all the good culturally sensitive work of explained in S19.

I would propose that O19 and 21 be relabeled to “encountered object (was object encountered by)” and “encountered at (witnessed encounter)”.

Many thanks for your consideration,

Current Proposal: 

Posted by Martin on 7/3/2020

I support this!

Outcome: 

In the 48th joint meeting of the CIDOC CRM SIG and ISO/TC46/SC4/WG9; 41st FRBR-CIDOC CRM Harmonization Meeting; the sig accepted the proposed  changes to the labels of the properties O19,O21.

The labels changed:

FROM O19 has found object (was object found by) TO: O19 encountered object (was object encountered at)
FROM O21 has found at (witnessed) TO: O21 encountered at (witnessed encounter)

Also the sig decided that the scope notes should be changed in order to take into account the new labels. A new issue should be created for this discussion

October 2020

Reference to Cidoc Version:
version 7.0.1

Reference to Issues:

524
reformulate the scope notes of O19, O21

Meetings discussed:

48th CIDOC CRM and 41st FRBR CRM